FireWing Queen is being a tyrant?

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Just opening this topic to discuss about the FireWings leadership.

I feel her leadership isn't being good. When people tend to disobey to the leader, it means the leader is a bad one.

I believe Kenina is a tyrant, considering also she ignores the majority of FireWings are cocky and unpredictable by nature. She can't just punish or imprison them.

What are your opinion on this? I'd like this site won't take the tyrantship direction. Leaders aren't supposed to be tyrants.

While it is true the tribe's leader word is "law", we aren't in a military accademy where the boss-character cruelly commands and force others to follow orders, Otherwise they're punished.

There're feelings involved when people roleplay characters, and they put their personalities inside the characters. I believe this cannot be ignored.

I hope other leaders will not take Kenina's direction. I feel what's happening would compromise the friendly and peaceful atmopshere. Most of all, the tyrantship system only suffucates characters personalities.

This is of course only my opinion. What do you think about this?

^ Not that the room will get destroyed or anything XD

yeah but I thought that because of everything is happening so fast, she can reconsider it, also later too
vold is not a kid xD
(lol erin takes a redbull and flee*

Since this post is late, I'll just sum everything up.  Firstly, why the heck would Kenina need to warn you about the consequences of your actions?  Last time I checked, yelling at YOUR LEADER in front of their allies AND disobeying them does not make the leader of said tribe give you cookies.  Seriously, what did you expect?  Her title IS Queen, not President.  The Queen's decree is law, and you broke a law, and are now being sent to prison.  How is that shocking?  You publicly break a law, and embarrass the queen in front of their new found allies.  Swift punishment is the only obvious response to save any face of the ordeal.

Secondly, why would she warn you ooc that you are gonna be punished for breaking a law?   I do believe this is call an RP site, not a story site.  If you want to write a collaborative story, go pm someone and work on it there, not on the forums where people rp.

Thirdly, I still see no reason why at all Atlantis would be posting something like this.  No reason at all.  He's a SW, so I don't see the connection to how Kenina's actions for FW affect him, unless he had ulterior motives.

As for Kenina's response, I supported her in that reaction, I actually laughed as she took my advice.  I'll tell you the same thing I told her.  Stop being a whiny hatchling, and go put your big girl pants on.  Leaders are not supposed to be whiny hatchlings at everyone disobeying them, they take charge and control the situation.  

Now, the only thing I see left for this topic is to burn it as if it never existed.  But really, if you have an issue of Kenina's post, come whine to me, not her.  I suggested it.  I warn you though, I WILL humiliate stupidity and immaturity, which is the founding of this topic.  Please, feel free to PM me on this account or on Oculus's account.

I do quiet agree the she is being a tyrant. The first thing she wanted to do was slay the Icewings and steal their territory. The thing is, what would firewings do with a freezing territory? Freeze to death? Sounds about right. In no way, shape, or form that idea, or even thought would not have been helpful to the firewings. I do quiet agree. She is a Tyrant.

yelling at YOUR LEADER in front of their allies AND disobeying them does not make the leader of said tribe give you cookies

Are you kidding? you want to be punished? a cub who just was shoked by the news?! it's a mature reaction to let him cool down, and then have a serious talk
what's wrong with you ?!

a leader or a queen are not always the kind of people who rip off your head with no problem, there are good leaders and queen/king and keep this in mind, good doesn't mean stupid! but you think the bad way is the only one uh? wow..congrats

my char (erin) wasn't breaking any law, just expressed her thoughts instead of sitting down and shut up or speack about this behind kenina

volc have its personality and knowing him by description and other roleplays this is the right reaction

Stop being a whiny hatchling, and go put your big girl pants on.

I WILL humiliate stupidity and immaturity

you are really confused about immaturity, aggressity, complain etc, now, if there is a good admin or moderator, would warm you for your harsh words and behaviour

you told her? so you are pushing and convincing her to lock or punish etc the members of her tribe/family?! wow very nice, you all are doing good!

ausurath, the way you are talking is a "bit" arrogant, i do not support the bully the arrogant the selfish the one who think that the bad way is the right way so don't dare to tell me that i'm whiny or my char are becauase, sadly for you, mentally closed, it's all but not a whiny the reaction of my char, I see you have much to learn from life, what ptoblem do you have? how old are you? how the heck is possible that you get ALL wrong? can't understand it? sorry for ya,
but you are the one who look immature and you are complaining (or whining since it seem like you like this word) about other's post and reactions. Also you are not mature enought to finally reply at a rpg and caus everyone to wait for you, I will no spend more time talking to you if you will insult me again, even if you are smart and do not use bad words it's still pretty clear how you are facing me

i't enough, i'm tired of this, if there will not change anything i will leave forever this time, you have no right to talk to me like that and as others said it's just a rpg you should enojoy it and relax, not stand up on the others, giving orders or deriding
you don't even know me , and I didn't pretend to know you and never thouht about to attack you f "something was not written like you wanted to

I should have just ignored your comment

and as I said, by menacing to insult and humiliate you must be warned!

// sorry frostflare i didn't ignore your post

The main argument of the topic has been clarified between the people involved. After reading Kenina's explanations, I understand much better her reasons now.

Ausurath wrote:Thirdly, I still see no reason why at all Atlantis would be posting something like this.  No reason at all.  He's a SW, so I don't see the connection to how Kenina's actions for FW affect him, unless he had ulterior motives.

I have opened this topic because afraid the FireWings leadership would cause tensions. It's for the site's sake. IC, of course, it doesn't regard Atlantis.

Ausurath wrote:Now, the only thing I see left for this topic is to burn it as if it never existed.  But really, if you have an issue of Kenina's post, come whine to me, not her.  I suggested it.  I warn you though, I WILL humiliate stupidity and immaturity, which is the founding of this topic.  Please, feel free to PM me on this account or on Oculus's account.

Refrain from posting insults. Everyone here is only writing its opinion and we're having a discussion. None is immature and stupid. Any opinion is valuable, even if you think it's completely wrong.

I'm going to close this topic to not let it to degenerate.

Erineyes, and generally people, I invite you to not reply at others insults, but let a staff's member to intervene.

This topic has caused all sorts of crazyness. Just about everyone in it has insulted everyone else. Feelings were hurt all around and well thats not good. This topic serves as an excellent example of everything not to say OOC on this site. Some of the crap from here has translated to the chatbox. I'm putting the hammer down here. If I hear anymore talk about this topic staff bias or who was right or wrong I don't care. They will receive warning bans and what not. This goes for the moderators as well as the members. Lets put this disaster of a topic behind us.